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Poster: lazylyghtning Date: Jul 6, 2004 5:23pm
Forum: etree Subject: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

Well I just started getting a bunch of shows from archive. I'm getting pretty ambitious about it. Anyway I knew someone who used to trade through the mail, and if you sent him 20 cd's he would send you back 10 filled with music. And keep the rest so he could burn more for himself.

So I have a need for a whole bunch of CD's, 5000-6000. I spend a lot of time burning shows for other people, but I just do it for free. I dont get any free CD's out of it. They give me the disks and I burn them all and give them back to them filled with music.

So my question is, is it wrong to ask for a portion of the CD's that people give me to burn to keep for myself so I can get myself more shows? Like 1/10 or something? I feel guilty when I consider it. So is that something that is considered ok? Or not?

When I think about it, it doesnt seem okay. Like I'm gaining something through it. So whats the verdict?

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffchops11 Date: Jul 6, 2004 10:07pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

i don't really have an opinion to be honest with you, however, i do have a solution. have the people send you 10 discs, 5 filled with their music, and 5 blank. Then send back the 5 with music for them. That way, both of you win, and there is nothing to feel guilty about.

cheers
ed

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Poster: kmcmurtrie Date: Jul 8, 2004 2:10am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

Here's something to consider. For you to get shows, someone taped it, someone transfered it, and someone runs the site you got it from. That's quite a bit of other people's time, money and effort. Do you send any of them blanks?

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Poster: B.H. Toque Date: Jul 12, 2004 12:39pm
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

Too bad it doesn't work that way. I'd never have to buy media again.

My most recent torrent is around 300 copies right now, and between stg, bt.etree and here, there must be 5000 copies of my recordings floating around. 8)

I'm just happy when people say thanks.

JAson

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Poster: Administrator, Curator, or Staffgreenone Date: Jul 7, 2004 2:18am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

> So my question is, is it wrong to ask for a
> portion of the CD's that people give me to
> burn to keep for myself so I can get myself
> more shows?

Many would argue yes... Most of these bands gave the thumbs-up to hosting here with the idea that the music would be free for all. Once other people start making anything from it - money, extra discs, etc. - that violates the spirit of the bands' agreement, I think. Some taping policies even stipulate that exchanges must be one-for-one trades.

Now...if you decide you feel like tossing in an extra disc or something else (a sticker, cartoon, ticket stub, etc.) into someone's package as a thanks for them doing you a favor, that's one thing. But to ask for extra discs in exchange is quite another...

--Dave

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Poster: 5string Date: Jul 7, 2004 3:03am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

2fer1 is the accepted favor for burning discs. Your time is worth something, Right? Some of us are not able to have high speed connections. Others are computer illiterate. You're doing them a favor and they show appreciation with blank media. Would it be any different if they cooked you dinner instead? A home cooked meal is worth more than blank cd.
Don't feel guilty about it Lazylyghtning, be happy to spread the music.

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Poster: thoman8r Date: Jul 7, 2004 5:07am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

I'm sorry but that's the same bullshit logic bootleggers use to justify selling shows. The bottom line is, if you are accepting any sort of compensation for burning a show for others above and beyond an equal number of cds in return (blank or otherwise), that's wrong.

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Poster: MarcoEsc Date: Jul 7, 2004 3:29am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

"So my question is, is it wrong to ask for a portion of the CD's that people give me to burn to keep for myself so I can get myself more shows? Like 1/10 or something? I feel guilty when I consider it. So is that something that is considered ok? Or not? "

Asking for extra discs in exchange for burning recordings of etree-friendly artists is NOT considered OK. While "2 for 1" may be considered standard among some bootleg circles, this has NEVER been the standard among trade-friendly artists.

If you're requesting any sort of compensation for burning CDs of "free music" for people, you're breaking the rules.

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Poster: lazylyghtning Date: Jul 7, 2004 8:23am
Forum: etree Subject: Re: Burning Shows for people, and getting free disks?

Okay, thanks for your replies. Guess I wont be doing it! I'll just get the new disks myself every couple weeks when I can afford them.

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